Sally Gary joins the show to discuss the church’s response to the LGBTQ community, fear, safety, sexuality, idealizing family , transitioning from trial law to running her non-profit CenterPeace that provides safe places for men and women who experience same-sex attraction and her book “Loves God Likes Girls.“
Songwriter and Worship Pastor at Willow Creek Community Church Aaron Niequist joins the show to discuss a third way response to the Orlando Bloom & Justin Bieber conflict and the conflict in Gaza. Offering people a wider menu in worship. Getting bored in Quiet Times. Centering Prayers and A New Liturgy. Who’s a better preacher Aaron’s father-in-law and current pastor Bill Hybel or Aaron’s former pastor Rob Bell.